Used Accordions for Sale
$300 bari? + other stuff
Hey, I play the tenor in our jazz band at school. Recently I have been interested in getting a bari (curse you, Hornheads!). We have a girl that plays the bari, but, I'm sorry, she's just terrible. No air, can't hear her, outta tune, doesn't know fingerings, etc, etc. I'm thinking of joining in on bari because I'm pretty big and FULL OF HOT AIR! :twisted: accordion gabbanelli for sale for $1500
Is it at all possible
to get a bari for ~$250-300 that is in good playing condition and
sounds at least somewhat pleasant? Keywork doesn't need to be top
notch, I can't play too fast, just needs to work and not sound bad.
I need some people to keep me from buying an accordion or other useless junk. I know it would just be a waste of money, but I have recently wanted to get an accordion :? I know I'll never play it, and probably just have it sitting in my closet.
-AND- (yes, there's more, my apologies) old excelsior accordion
I have a neckstrap with a metal clip that I have been using for tenor. It has almost chewed through the little ring on the sax, :crybaby: and I've just noticed it and changed straps. Would I have to use a metal clip with a bari? The last plastic hooked strap I had snapped when I stood up and bowed after a concert within my first year of playing. I love the metal-hooked strap and would hate to drop a horn, cheap or not, but it would probably kill the bari ring, with all the extra weight, extended playing time and whatnot. Is there any way to fix/undo/prevent this?
What instrument does Jimmy Guiffre play on his recording of "The Swamp People"?
Thanks for any help, and I'm sorry for the extended/mixed bag post.
I made a google search for used accordions and here are the top 10 results.
Connection - New and used accordions for sale
All New and Used Accordions Guaranteed. Some have MIDI and/or Microphones ...
Contact Us to find out more about any of these accordions. [Home] [New & Used ...
www.accordionconnection.com/newused.htm - 8k -
Sold I'm selling two used Gabbanelli 5 Switch Accordions. ... If you want Reyes
Accordions to sell your used accordion using thier merchant card services ...
www.reyesaccordions.com/used2.htm - 45k -
Advice on Buying Used
These notes about used accordions were collected from the Squeezebox Newsgroup.
Cheap used accordion #1; Cheap used accordion #2; Evaluating old accordion ...
www.klezmusic.com/sbx-info/sbx-old.html - 23k -
Deffner Inc Used Accordion
Ernest Deffner Inc used accordions index, ernest deffner inc, used accordion,
faithe deffner, retailer, usa, titano, pancordion, pigini, music publisher, ...
www.accordions.com/ernestd/accordions/ - 5k -
HMT Catalog: Used
& Consigned Squeezeboxes
How to Ship A Used Accordion · Used squeezebox return policy: Please read.
Piano Accordions, used · Anglo Concertinas, used · Diatonic Button Boxes, used ...
www.hmtrad.com/catalog/winds/sbx/sbx-used.html - 8k -
Links: Manufacturers and Shops
They also sell new and used accordion, as well as microphones and MIDI systems.
... Castle Accordion from Minneapolis sells new and used accordions. ...
www.accordionlinks.com/manufacturer.cfm - 105k -
Used Accordions ... [ACCORDION CATALOGUE] [Used Accordions] [Piermaria
Home] [MELODEONS] [Hohner] [SCANDALLI] [Sonatina] [Keys and Buttons] [Colours] ...
www.accordions.btinternet.co.uk/accordions2.htm - 27k -
and Accordion Supplies - Accordion
Huge Selection Of Quality Used Accordions. We buy and sell used accordions such
as Titano, Hohner, Crucianelli, PanCordion, Futura, Excelsior/Excelsiola and ...
www.accordionheaven.com/ - 13k -
ALL our used accordions are provided with a no hassle money back guarantee of
... We make buying a new or used accordion easy, fun and AFFORDABLE! ...
www.musicmagicusa.com/used.html - 28k -
A lot of people recommended Ebay
to buy used accordions. Find What you
want on eBay.
The Excelsior semi-professional accordions are manufactured according to the same quality standards applied to professional accordion manufacturing. The range of models offered matches any requirement either forthgoing students or experienced amateur may have.
John Gabbanelli, owner of Gabbanelli Accordions, was brought into the trade at an young age, learning and developing the craft under the guidance of his late father. After forty years of experience in the music industry, Gabbanelli Accordions have built a solid reputation for high quality hand made instruments and customer satisfaction. There are a lot of accordion gabbanelli for sale online.
It is certainly not easy to find all these qualities in a single instrument. marketed under the prestigious name of PIERMARIA, represent solidity, simplicity and reliability ; materials of exceptional quality are used to produce these accordions.
This is from the website http://www.klezmusic.com/sbx-info/sbx-old.html
These notes about used accordions were collected from the Squeezebox Newsgroup.
The note below got me thinking about the advisability of buying an accordion for "only" $250 or so. While you might get one that was playable and in tune I wouldn't count on it. Generally once an accordion gets to be 25-30 years old or so you can count on major maintenance items. Generally this is about the life span of the wax that holds the reeds in and may dictate a rewaxing job.
In addition no accordion that is 30 years old is going to be very in tune. Other things that are quite likely to pop up are mold in the accordion, rusty reeds, wornout/damaged bellows, bad reed leathers. All of these things tend to run the cost of that "cheap" accordion up rapidly. You could be looking at anywhere from $300 to $1500 for a renovation project. My advice is that if you decide to buy a cheap accordion you consider the hidden costs and decide up front whether it is of a quality that would warrant any outlay of money. Often if you get a cheap accordion and you can live with its defects and only want it as a knock around accordion or a student instrument you might be able to use it for a while...just don't rely on it for any heavy duty use.
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I always buy used accordions. I'd suggest hunting around for something cheap to see if you like it. I never pay more than $250 for an accordion and I play professionally. There are a lot of them in attics and stuff. I agree with the buying used accordions policy.
Me too. However, the part of the country where you live, and whether you live in an urban or rural area, can have a lot to do with prices. In the DC area, you'd be lucky to find anything *in playing condition* for under $250, although it can be done. Most of the classifieds I see, people around here are asking $300 and up, and most of these need from $200 on up in repairs before they play and sound decent.
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For several years I have been looking for another "lady's sized" 120 bass PA. The one I have been using for the last 36 years is a Titano that my parents purchased new for $350.00. In a neighboring town a woman will sell a black UMA lady's accordion that was built in the early 1950's by Archie Pancotti. It has a couple bent keys and has been moved from "hall closet to hall closet" for several decades without being played.
I have not yet seen it, but she played some scales and chords for me on the telephone and it sounded pretty good. Neither of us knows what a fair price for this box should be. Would someone be willing to give me an estimated FAIR price range, sight unseen? I don't want to cheat her, but I don't want to "get taken" either.
Sight unseen, it's impossible to accurately judge the VALUE of an accordion, or any instrument, for that matter. Assuming everything works, the keyboard is level, there are no bad reeds, no internal rattles, no bellows leaks or internal leaks, the instrument is not badly out of tune, and there are no signs of mold on either the case, the straps, or the bellows, you should expect to pay anywhere from $100 to $600.
A really fine collectors piece in excellent playing condition would be at the upper end, an ordinary utilitarian box in pretty good condition would be at the lower end. A 40 year old accordion, no matter how nice, is due for an overhaul at a cost of anywhere from $300 for a minimal "get-by-cheap" job up to as much as $1500 for the deluxe treatment.
When you purchase an instrument of this age, you are taking a chance on the wax holding up until you have gotten your value out of the accordion. The reed plates could fall out of the wax at any time (or not for years), and then you are faced with the choice of paying for an expensive overhaul, or tossing the instrument and cutting your losses. Even if the reed plates don't actually fall out, as the wax cracks, the sound begins to suffer, and you will have to put up with a lot of annoying buzzes, wheezes, and squeeks from the reeds.
Therefore you must also factor in the intrinsic non-musical of the instrument before you make your purchase decision. If it is a really pretty decorative piece, even if it falls apart musically, you will still be able to recoup some of your investment from an antique dealer, who can sell it as a mantelpiece sitter. Or, you may be willing to invest in the eventual overhaul of this accordion.
Perhaps you can make a contingency purchase, with a final commitment one way or the other after you get a chance to play the instrument a little bit. If you can't, I wouldn't offer the seller very much money for it.
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Date: Mon, Mar 13, 1995
Subj: Re: HMTs Wendy . . . and PAs
"...I'd love to find/own a sort of flashy piano accordion-- bejeweled, be-rhinestoned, whatever. Not too pricy, no need for a lot of reed sets (though musette would be nice). Can you give me any tips on models? where to look? are they all old ones?..."
Your budget has a lot to do with the answer. Most likely, we are talking about an older box (30 y.o. +) which means while you can probably find one for under a grand, at that age it's likely going to need the reed plates rewaxed soon, a major undertaking, even if it doesn't require anything else. You can squeak by for a couple of years, usually, without having this done, but sooner or later you're going to have to fork over major money for an overhaul.
If you find a box you adore, it's worth it. I recently had an accordion I paid $400 for completely rewaxed, leathered, tuned, and other stuff, at a cost of $800. Yes, I minded, but I wouldn't have parted with it for twice that. New full size Italian made PA's, bejewelled or not, can easily run you in the $3000 and up range.
Models? There are hundreds. I like the sound of the old Hohners, but the 96 and 120 bass models are a bit too heavy for me. Hohner also made some nice smaller 2 reed musette tuned boxes: 48 bass, 60 bass and 80 bass are manageable. Some have very nice decoration. One great thing about the old Hohners, from a piano player's viewpoint: the piano keys are full (3/4"); a lot of the "ladies'" accordions, which are smaller and weigh less, have narrow keys, either 5/8" or 9/16", that will drive you crazy if you don't have very small hands.
How many basses, and what keys? If you are only looking at 120 bass boxes, along with standard keys and lots of decoration, you're talking major weight, even if it's only 3 treble reeds. On the other hand, if you can get by with 80, 72, 60 or 48 basses, you may find the weight more manageable. The keyboards are shorter, and the 2 reed models are quite light.
Where to look? Put an ad in your local paper. Put a notice on the Squeezebox list. Haunt garage sales, estate sales, rummage sales, antique shops, flea markets. One note about antique shops: they are never selling musical instruments as such, but as "rare and valuable antiques", and they have NO idea what they are worth as musical instruments. You can find complete junk piles with an asking price of $500.
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p.s.--I saw several unplayable but old accordions in antique shops. All of them seemed overpriced to me, but apparently the owners didn't expect to sell them to anyone interested in playing them. One fellow suggested that no one could play these anymore. Rather, people apparently buy them to decorate mantles, etc. It's hard to believe that non-players are driving up the prices of accordions!
This has been going on for a LONG time, in the DC area, at least. What is really hard to believe is that people will pay hundreds of dollars for a pathetic thing that you or I wouldn't pay $25 for. I have had some lively negotiations with antique shop owners over instrument prices, but I'm rarely able to convince them to lower their prices to a reasonable amount. They know they can sell the instrument for more to a non-player.
Two excelsior grands available
One has 10/6 switches and costs $2895
The other has 10/1 switches and costs $2795
What are 10/* switches?
This just means that they both have 10 switches on the right hand and one has 6 switches on the left side while the other has only one switch on the left side. What's the point of one switch? I asked John the same thing - apparently it's a toggle, so it works out being the same as having two switches.
They are Excelsior symphony grands, American made, circa 1938 (approximately). They have 4/6 reeds and no power master.
What is a power master?
A power master is an extra master switch (all of the stops open) that is in the form of a bar on the edge under the keyboardthat you can hit with your wrist. What does the 4/6 imply on the reeds? 4/6 reeds means that there are 4 sets of reeds on the right hand and 6 sets of reeds on the left hand.
If there are n reeds (on either side), there are 2 to the n possible combinations, except that one of those is all stops shut, which isn't useful, so there are 2 to the n minus 1 meaningful combinations. Thus, with 4 reeds, there COULD be 15 switches. Typically you wouldn't find an accordion having that many switches because some of the combinations would just sound bad, at least to most ears (or at least to the manufacturer's ears). On these Excelsiors there are 10 switches, or ten reed combinations available, or - ten different SOUNDS available. On the left hand there are 6 reeds, and thus 63 meaningful combinations, but obviously a much smaller number are deemed useful. The extra reeds on the left side are intended more for beefing up the sound than for providing variety in sound, as on the right side.